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Let's Talk Vine(YL)- Vinyl Time Capsules: Pearl Jam Covers and Discoveries
We discuss the fascinating world of Pearl Jam covers - both songs they've covered and Pearl Jam songs covered by other artists. The conversation reveals our different perspectives on whether cover songs enhance or detract from Pearl Jam's live performances.
• Willie Nelson's cover of "Just Breathe" with his son Lucas transforms the song completely while maintaining its emotional core
• Chris Cornell's rendition of "Footsteps" stands as possibly the greatest cover of a Pearl Jam song ever
• Pearl Jam has covered an astonishing number of artists, from Neil Young to ABBA
• The band has played The Who's "Baba O'Riley" 186 times in concert, sparking debate about setlist choices
• St. Vincent's surprising cover of "Tremor Christ" showcases her versatility
• LiveFootsteps.org now features our song ratings from four years of podcasting
• Our new "Vinyl Rewind" segment features REM's "Murmur" and Secret Machines' "Now Here Is Nowhere"
• Upcoming concerts and running marathons remain important parts of our lives outside music
• Influential albums from 1995 are turning 30, including Radiohead, Foo Fighters, and Smashing Pumpkins
Check out LiveFootsteps.org to see all our Pearl Jam song ratings and click through to hear the episodes where we discussed them.
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I. I found a crouton underneath the futon. Mama sir, I couldn't eat it cause all my teeth are gone. My personality is based on food. Now take it from Bogdan. He's by veterinarian. His folks are from Croatia. They've been through some shit. Man, I seem like such a bitch when I talk about Swedish politics. Or maybe he's Australian. I never really listen when he's Talk Vinyl.
Speaker 2:You're hearing Viagra Boys. This is their new single, uno 2, off their upcoming album, and if you've not heard of the Viagra Boys, I would highly recommend digging into them with two songs off their new album coming out shortly and tonight once again, going on four and a half years of doing the show with him, trey Bush from all the way from Walla Walla Washington, thank you. Thank you very much. You know, someday I'll get claps like that. You're definitely the popular one, shall we say.
Speaker 3:Well, you have all the controls over there.
Speaker 2:I do, I do have the controls.
Speaker 3:I have a soundboard mixing station that I have no idea what any of the buttons mean. I just turn them all the way up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did have some technical difficulties last time, but your voice is very nice tonight. It's very settling.
Speaker 1:Thank you very much.
Speaker 2:It puts me in a mood. I've worked on some vocals here recently. I mean, if it makes you feel any better, we can go like this. I can talk to you like this through the whole show. I mean we can set a whole tone if you want. I'm good. But tonight's theme is simple. So I wanted to go simple about this and also I want to announce something tonight I'm really excited about it Something I'm working on in the back end.
Speaker 2:Livefootstepsorg, the website that we use for all of our stats and statistics, has been working on the rating system from let's Talk Vinyl. For the last four and a half years that we've been doing this show, we have been rating Pearl Jam songs. So all of those ratings are going to be associated with those songs on the website from the past shows and all the future shows. So when you go on the website, you'll actually see my and Trey's rating on it and be able to I think what they were saying was click it and you'll be able to go to that episode of that show. So we're working on that now. So definitely a big shout-out to Dave over at LiveFootstepsorg, who is absolutely killing it. I mean, when he brought that idea up, I was like, yeah, let's do it, let's roll with it.
Speaker 3:I'm excited about that. I can't wait to see it yeah it's cool. I mean they transcribe all the shows.
Speaker 2:Well, it was a lot of homework. I had to go back and actually look at how to go through and get the ratings from everything to make sure I got it. So I went through and basically went through all the shows and like fast forward to get your rating and my rating for the songs and wrote them all down and we're going to go through.
Speaker 3:Now I'm going to have to go back. I'm going to look at my own ratings. I'm probably going to disagree with half of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, think about how much we've matured in four and a half years, you know. Think about that. How about that? A hundred percent. But tonight we're talking about two things. We're going to be talking about Pearl Jam covers. Now I would say and especially me, going back and listening to some past episodes, me and Troy are differently, vocally different when it comes to some of the covers. But tonight we're going to be talking about songs, our songs that we like that Pearl Jam's covered, and bands that have actually covered Pearl Jam songs.
Speaker 2:I went down a rabbit hole of bands that have covered Pearl Jam and I was shocked by some artists that I never heard of, that have a huge influence, like either a youth following or even an older following that I just never heard of, and I got to listen to some of their songs. We'll play some clips later. We're going to be drinking some wine or whatever Trey's drinking. We'll discuss why I'm not drinking here in a little bit and then we're going to start our new topic tonight. It's something that I came up with, uh, when I was sleeping one night, and it's called vinyl rewind and I feel like you know, trey had, trey me definitely listening a lot of the similar music. But I do feel like there's times where he'll mention a band I've never heard of, or I'll mention a band never heard of and we're listening to different music.
Speaker 2:So we're gonna have a segment at the end of the show called Vinyl Rewind. We're going to talk about an album we've been listening to recently, you know from back in the past, and give you some you know songs. We've listened to it, maybe give you an idea of a band that you've never heard of before and, you know, get you maybe to dig in and listen to them. So that is the topics tonight. But before we jump into all the topics, let's keep it real simple. Let me ask this Trey, how have you been?
Speaker 3:Anthony, so good to see you. Buddy. Yeah, we've been good. I feel like it's been a stressful world the past few months and so thankfully we've got music and cats and each other to keep us grounded.
Speaker 2:I definitely feel the need of keeping grounded. Ain't that the truth? It just feels like everything that is coming out our way, whether it's political or just fucking opinions, it just seems like everything is just so negative and so weighing on the shoulders of people. And God, yeah. If it wasn't for music and even sports, I don't know if I'd be sane.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, we had a show. You asked me about it before we went on live, but we had a show at our tasting room on Saturday night with our friend Richard Stuberud and the bad scene with the Block Brothers, kurt and Al Block. If you are big music fans and you're watching the show, kurt Block was in a band called the Fastbacks. He was in the Minus Five. He's been in a bunch of awesome bands and his brother, al, who I met for the first time two years ago when they played our space, almost to the day that they played last Saturday he was just the nicest guy. Not that I expected him to be a dick or anything, but he was like they were just, all, literally just. And Richard is the same way. He was my wedding wedding singer we talked about that like holly and I. You know he sang some awesome songs for holly and I when we got married, so he's obviously one of the nicest guys. And then kurt is just like oh, it was just so fun, so they had the. This is.
Speaker 3:It was like an incredible punk rock show. Um, I mean, these are, like you know, uh, 92nd to 122nd, you know, just blasts of Fury, of awesome, really great uh, pop punk songs um fun too. That was like everybody had smiles on their faces. And then Rick frills band um Jody Watts. They were great um same thing, rick's, like he's. If you've never seen him play live, you were a pearl jam 20, right, anthony?
Speaker 3:yes, I was okay, so you probably you did see uh rick field play, because uh, uh he had he got up on stage, he got up on the during the uh encore, uh, the second night, when all the crews came out, everybody came out, all their friends did you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was a full stage.
Speaker 3:Do you remember when Rick Friel came out over there, took his shirt off, of course?
Speaker 2:Played bass. Well, it's funny because he's a massive KISS fan too Like, isn't he Huge?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, he's a huge fan, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean because ever it's. It's funny because I feel the we I don't know when we did it, I think who the hell I had the interview with, but I interviewed somebody. I want to say you know what? I know exactly what it was when I entered. When I interviewed, um, oh my god, uh, tim di giulio on the show we had.
Speaker 2:We had a long conversation about kiss and he had. He had a great story about mike meeting, uh, ace and then playing and all this stuff and it was like a quick, like they got to meet each other and rick was there and like rick was posting about it, like it was like a childhood dream and he was like this whole story but yeah, no, it's. I remember then rick had chimed in, he was listening and stuff. But no, yeah, rick's a good guy. I got to meet him, um, in seattle, uh, this past time. I was up there and it was super nice guy. We chatted for a bit. It was we, I think. I ran into Tim and he was with Tim in the streets. So, okay, that's, that's my interesting story.
Speaker 3:I, it's a. It's a. I like that story and I have. You were cutting out on half of it, so oh fantastic. Great, I mean, on my end I'm sure.
Speaker 2:Listen. You are a multimillionaire living in a mansion in the hills of Walla Walla. How the hell do you not have good internet now? We've been doing this show for four and a half years. It always seems like your internet signal is coming out of like a tin can. It doesn't make sense to me, trey.
Speaker 3:Just when you think you know me. Just when you think you know me, just when you think you know me. Anthony, listen, I saw you pull up. I'm a working man, just like you.
Speaker 2:When we were up in Seattle he pulled up with Holly in a Bugatti. He was just lighting cigars with a $100 bill.
Speaker 3:I remember that. I remember that. Yeah, was it the silver one or the red one? Lover.
Speaker 2:Which Bugatti was it? So many, so many many. It's so tough, it's so tough to choose. You got one color for each day of the week and then you throw them out and get a new one.
Speaker 3:Um, that's ridiculous. Well, anyway, the whole point of that story as we till it got off track, the whole point of story was that weekend, that night, three hours of just pure Bliss. No one gave a about what else is going outside that, outside the walls of that the tasting room, you know, I mean and everybody in there had a blast. He had Mark arm, from Mudhoney, was there. Uh, dan Peters, the drummer for Mudhoney, was there. Uh, you had um Musburger, who's probably the most underrated drummer in Seattle, who is currently on tour with the Jimi Hendrix Experience. I think he said they were going down to LA or I can't remember where they're playing. They're playing for like 40 something. It's like 40 something days. They have like 30 something shows, uh, on this tour and uh, he's the drummer for the Jimi Hendrix experience thing, incredible. He was there. Um, he had both Friel brothers, uh, chris Friel, who's an incredible drummer, uh, for Sweetwater, and uh, of course, rick, and then Rick's musician buddies and Jody Watson forgive me, dave and Dan, that's not right. Anyway, I'm so embarrassed. Anyway, they were great.
Speaker 3:The whole point is, richard's watching these guys in the room. He knows these guys are in there. He recognizes almost like the gravity of the moment when he's playing with his band and he has all these great musicians, there's not a lot of people there. There there's 55, maybe 60 people in the room total, and so if 20 of them are his peers, he's like, dude, I'm gonna bring it. He's like I'm going into like next level mode. And he did that whole band did. Uh, hey, look at that, that was exactly right technology. Look at that picture right there. That's historic, that's every well, this is not true. There's probably like two drummers missing out. Duff mccagan was also a drummer for the fastbacks back in the early 80s, um, but you're looking at mike musburger, current drummer. Richard steve rude former drummer. You've got kim warnick. You've got lulu on the far left over here, and they just released an album last year, anthony, I don't know if you know that or not.
Speaker 3:And then you have kurt and al block right there too, so um, but they just released the fast backs, just released uh album last year, jesus hey, there it is. Look at that there's the crowd if you look where the arrow is right now. Anthony, that's's where Mark Arm is. Let's go down a little bit Right there. Yeah, it's right there. There's Mark right there. Anyway, it was great.
Speaker 2:I will tell you this too. So when we were up there in when we did our Smash benefit, I didn't know what the sound was going to be like in there. You know I'm a nut when it comes up, but it really does sound good in there. It's a really great little place and I like it's like not in seattle, it's just right on the outskirts of it, so you don't feel overwhelmed by the city. Yeah no, that's a really cool place. That would have been amazing.
Speaker 2:Um, funny story about mike musburger. So I interviewed mike. Oh shit, seven years ago I went to I, so I was in seattle. I got invited to his house and, um, I walk into his house and you see all these like awards and I and it didn't click who he was like. I was like, hey, you know, it was an is like I, it was some I was working with another organization. Like, hey, go invite interview mike, it's a great idea. So I go, I'm like, I'm walking through and I'm like, and he brings me into his office, got all his posters on the wall and he has a fastbacks thing and I'm like man, I go, you know, you like the fast ones, like yeah, I love the fastbacks and he's laughing and goofing is like fucking, I get dumbass. Anthony didn't do his homework because this is the early days of uh interviewing people and didn't realize that at the the level of like when, when they played, when they played um, they played the.
Speaker 3:Remember when pearl jam had their home shows in 2018? Yes, okay, so that weekend was also Sub Pop 30 down on Alki, you'll have to remind me. I don't know if the Pearl Jam shows were like a Wednesday, friday, or was it a Friday, sunday?
Speaker 3:I think those were Friday, sundays, if I remember correctly, okay so then the saturday in between that was the sub pop 30 um weekend and I remember went down there with um andre and and jeff whitman and I I had my good camera with me too I got some great snaps of the fastbacks of that place, man, oh, they were so fun. And there were, you know, uh, 5 000 people in front of that stage watching this show and it may I just shake my head. I'm like that it was such a seattle moment 60 people in a room and you know 10 incredible musicians seattle historical musicians over the past 30, 40 years are all sitting there and you're like, why aren't there 150 people in this room? You know, like it's just crazy.
Speaker 2:So the one thing that I've learned about seattle and I've said this in past interviews and stuff when I've interviewed other seattle musicians whether it's tim, whether it's mike well, I mean just this the the amount of musicians that are there's the talent of musicians that is up in Seattle, but the one thing I've always learned about them is how they all support each other. Like it's not like a. It wasn't like a New York scene or even like the punk scene that came out of like Philadelphia. There was like a rabid. Like I need to be ahead of you.
Speaker 2:Like I felt like in seattle everyone supported everybody and like even when I was talking to a rob uh from planets in the ocean stereo embers he talked about like lane staley and like getting to hear some of the music from his cassette tapes and all these like just like how everyone was, like just like everyone was just so normal, like like being famous or in getting popular and getting their music out there never got to their heads. They were always still about wanting to be a part of each other and support each other. And every time, like you do a show, like I remember God, I think it wasn't, it wasn't a Matt that came out to one of your shows that there was a band I don't know. You always have someone that pops up to your places when another artist comes through, because they're always supporting each other. They don't. It's not like they preach what they sell, like hey, we're always supporting other bands and they're always there and it's. It's cool about seattle, I really and and outside of the, supporting each other.
Speaker 3:They're music fans. They love the same reason. We love to go see live music. That's why they like to go see my music too, and so, um, you know it's uh, and for the, for the most part, everyone's just so. You know it's, and for the most part, everyone's just so respectful. You know what I mean. Like Mark's the most approachable person you've ever met in your entire life. He took, you know, 50, 100 pictures that night with people just smiling his face every time. You know, same thing with you know with the bad scene and with Jody Watson. They're just, they're all good people.
Speaker 1:You know with the bad scene and and with jody watson, they're just, they're all good people. You know, so do you.
Speaker 3:Anyway, we're good, we're good, we're gonna try to do a big smash benefit again. Uh, I'm working on some things. I can't talk about it. I'm I'm trying to make some things happen. Okay, uh, it would be end of may, beginning of j, oh, so, like a year from last year.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, nice, nice, do an annual thing. Well, I got a question for you. Do you think Mudhoney is the most overlooked band out of Seattle? Because in my opinion, I think they should have been much bigger than they were, because I feel like they were so influential to so many modern bands, whether they want to admit it or not, but that you can hear in even modern punk bands, whether they want to admit it or not, but that you can hear in even modern punk, even like the band viagra boys.
Speaker 3:Listening to there is so many tones of bands nowadays, to the way they play and their style of play that come directly from mud honey that is true, uh, but at the same time there's still a punk band, you know, and so punk bands don't get the recognition that just traditional rock music gets, I think you know. I mean in in general, I think that's the that's the case. So I'm not, I'm not saying there aren't. You know, people talk about the ramones and the sex pistols and but you know, like, you can name 10 really influential punk bands, but you can name a hundred rock bands, right, that's just going to be an infinitely smaller, I think, demographic of people who really appreciate it. I mean that you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think, that's why you're that's why you're the smarter one in this. You know more than I will ever know. You are. Do it all. This is all opinion.
Speaker 3:That's all they are. No, they're all opinions, that's all they are. I'm giving my opinion on why things are the way they are or aren't, but they're a great band. It's a great point.
Speaker 2:But let's bring it all back, all right. So tonight show's called let's Talk Vinyl. We're both usually drinking wine. I will not be drinking wine on this episode or the next one. I am in the process right now. I'm in a huge cleanse right now, but I am one week away from running seven half a marathon. Oh God, I know.
Speaker 3:I just popped this like an hour ago, this 2022 higher ground Grenache. This is off of Weather Eye Vineyard in Red Mountain, Washington. It's a single vineyard Grenache but it's a blend of three different blocks out of that vineyard site.
Speaker 2:It's quite unique. That is unique because that's seven different blocks. That's a lot to go into one wine. Yeah, three blocks, three blocks, I'm sorry, so three. I was going to say seven. I was like holy shit, three, okay. And now we haven't had any of this wine before, have we? Three bucks, I'm sorry, so three. I would say seven. I was like holy shit, three, okay. And now that have. We haven't had any of this wine before, have we?
Speaker 1:uh, I've seen you, you've had grenache before, but you haven't had this I've only made two.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've only made, uh, two, three. I made three vintages of this. We made one barrel, the 19, we made maybe three barrels of the um, the 20 vintage, and there's the 2022 and I think it's the same thing, I think it's maybe 150 cases total. Okay, not, not not a large production wine, but it's uh, this is one of the most special vineyard sites in washington state. It's the very top of red mountain.
Speaker 3:All of these blocks are tiny, tiny blocks, like we have a block called the hobbit block which is about one-third of an acre. We pull from a block called the sagebrush block, because within within the vineyard, are these hundred hundred and ten hundred 120 year old sagebrush bushes and they're 15, 20 feet wide, and so you're walking up a row and so any other traditional farming. They would have gone in and ripped all that stuff out and they would have planted in the ground. Ryan Johnson basically planted around all of the plants that were already in, that were already established there, so all the wildflowers are already there, all the huge sagebrushes, so you just plant it around it and rather than just ripping it all out, and so it's just a very healthy vineyard.
Speaker 3:The very low. They have low pest pressure up there and it's's just in a much more natural way. So, anyway, this is Grenache in those three blocks and then it's all foot-crushed, 100% foot-crushed, all native fermentation, no new oak. So it's very transparent wine. There's not a lot of oak influence on it from a flavor standpoint or aromatic standpoint. So when you're yeah, when you can smell this wine, you're like smelling where this wine is, which is the whole goal I think of why I'm making anyway, at least my goal do you?
Speaker 2:is there a difference in the overall taste of a wine whether it's a foot smash or actually smashed by? You know, industrial machines or machining in general, Dr Justin?
Speaker 3:Marchegiani. Well, you've got a couple of different things you could do that would have potentially affect the way the overall wine is going to taste If you machine pick your fruit, machine harvest it.
Speaker 3:And this is really speaking over. Like the first 20 years of my winemaking, I would tell you that machine harvesting has gotten so clean that you would have a hard time telling the difference between handpicked or de-stemmed fruit. So the machine they have these days is incredible. Outside of that most machine harvesters, you're going to get a lot more things other than grapes in the bin which could potentially end up as part of your fermentation and reduce the quality too. Okay, typically machine harvested stuff though is is cropped at a very high level, like the high yields it's. It's the growing for yields and not growing for quality.
Speaker 3:And in wine grape growing, um, there's a balance for every vineyard and for every vintage even.
Speaker 3:There's a balance at that vineyard has the ability to get the grapes ripe at a certain tonnage level, um, and that those tonnage levels will change each vintage, because a warmer vintage or a cooler vintage is going to change when you're going to pick and stuff.
Speaker 3:Or you can try to balance that out by reducing your yields, which will allow the reduced crop will get riper quicker. If you have one block that's hanging two tons to the acre and you have another block hanging four tons to the acre the one that's hanging two tons to the acre and you have another block hanging four tons to the acre. The one that's hanging two tons to the acre will get ripe much sooner than the one that's hanging four, because that plant only has so much energy to be able to push into the grapes, and so the level is delayed. In the stuff that's hanging heavier, it takes longer to get that ripe laid. In the stuff that's hanging heavier, it takes longer to get that ripe, and that's why every site has the perfect sort of. You know, there's a, there is a, there is a perfect number for every vintage in every vineyard, but that number changes every year.
Speaker 2:So this might be a silly question and and cause I don't think I've ever asked this, but so now you're talking about this?
Speaker 3:You never. You never asked a silly question.
Speaker 2:You never know. So is there a difference between how a grape would taste if it's lower on the branches than one that'd be higher up on the branches? Based off the fact that, how the tree is getting the getting it to the actual grape and things that I mentioned, would that affect it at all?
Speaker 3:So, really, yes, it does affect it. I'll give you an example we have a block that's planted in the Rocks District, where we make our psychedelic from, and it's planted on what's called a fan system. And so, coming up from the ground, you've got essentially three trunks, and those three trunks are coming from the ground and they're that's uh, they're uh, essentially cordons. They turn out to be like a cordon, like you see in a classic retrained vineyard, where it goes up and out. Okay, that's called a, that's called a vsp, but that's a cordon. Right there, these come straight from the ground and they go up like a y, like this, straight up to the top wire, because that's all last year's wood. You have um buds, positions from the ground all the way to the very top. You know, every two to three or three to four inches apart, you've got a different bud, just like a rose bush, okay, pushes out different places, right, sure, this cordon will shoot off shoots from the very bottom all the way the very top, and those shoots potentially have fruit on them.
Speaker 3:the fruit at the bottom of the plant compared to the top of the plant is very different in ripeness level okay okay, and that has more to do with, uh, the heat units that that plant receives because of its proximity to the ground and it's in a rocky vineyard where there's a lot of radiant heat coming off of the rocks. Okay, so the stuff that's fairly low to the ground feels that radiant heat and it ripens. It affects the way that that particular cluster and that shoot ripens. The stuff at the top because it's not quite as hot, it doesn't have that direct radiant heat, doesn't shut down as much and typically ripens a little quicker. Okay, so it just yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2:I mean see, like the whole process behind it, like the process of everything, like you know as you get older, like I always want to like know how does shit work, like how does this thing work. But it's interesting to like that whole dynamic of things. I'm supposed I'm going to a winery up in Washington in oh shit, august 8th.
Speaker 3:I think it is. Oh, you're going to the gorge.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not going to the gorge, I'm going to hold on. I can tell you right now no, give me a sec got your say. Michelle, my morning jacket. How'd you know?
Speaker 3:That's because they're playing at Shadrach, st Michelle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm doing. So I'm flying to Portland on the 6th to see Brad and Sam, then we're seeing Nine Inch Nails in Portland on the 7th, then we're seeing my Morning Jacket in Woodinville, washington, and then we're going to Vancouver to go see Nine Inch Nails again. So we're doing like three days of shows. That's going to be amazing. Oh yeah, brad's going to be here in a few weeks too. We're going to go see Jack White three days in a row. He flies into Kansas City, we're driving to St Louis that night, we're seeing Jack White in St Louis on a Thursday, jack Lewis, jack White in St City on a Friday, and then we're going to Omaha, nebraska to see Jack White and Omaha Nebraska on Saturday.
Speaker 3:Man, oh man, you are breaking it in man. Yeah, I got a question for you.
Speaker 2:We're going to record this right and we had this idea for a podcast name. I want to see what you thought about it. Jacking Off with Jack what do you think about that name for a show with me and Brad? Think about, um, uh, that name for the pot for a show for me and brad, you know just you know, two guys just jacking off with jack.
Speaker 3:Oh uh, you call it rubbing tug. How about that?
Speaker 2:that's perfect for you guys oh, jesus, but um, yeah, but no, um, I'm looking forward to, I'm actually so I do. So, yeah, if going into listen, I really want to drink a bottle of wine tonight, but I knew that I am very heavily into ketosis with my body and I'm in this cleanse and I really need to make sure that I'm prepared. Last year I was one race away from potentially qualifying for the Boston Marathon, which is always a dream of mine, so I got into that car wreck which kind of ruined not only just that but the podcast and everything, which, thank God, I'm better now, but I've been running. So, yeah, next, next next Sunday, I run one of seven races over three months half a marathons and I have to get qualifying times over all of them to run other races this summer to potentially get into a qualifying race to block into the Boston Marathon, because I've never run a full marathon. If I run one, that's the only one I ever run. And so, yeah, right now I'm very much a very heavy keto diet a lot of water, a lot of Coke Zeros, no sugars, no carbs right now, and a lot of training biking in the morning, running in the evening God, that just sounds awful. All of that does. I will tell you this as someone that like.
Speaker 2:So you know, this past year has been really fucking weird for me, with the car accident and then injury. It was just, it was so and I was, I was super depressed, like honestly, I was super depressed and I didn't work out. I didn't realize how much I missed working out, because when I work out I can put on my headphones, I can go run. Like last night I ran, I don't know. Like two nights ago I ran like eight miles and it just like it just flows away. Like I can think I can process. I'm not worrying about stuff, cause like when I'm at home, like I'm always worrying about something, like, oh, I gotta get this done, we gotta get this done, I gotta do this. Like I can't sit still where I'm running, I'm only focused on that and then I can clear my mind and focus. And I'm not. I'm not really good at anything. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not even good at like podcasting. I'm average at best. But like, well, I'm not true at all. Oh well.
Speaker 3:I well, I'm just saying but like what I like you're a good friend, so you're good at being a friend.
Speaker 2:Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 3:You're a good parent. I see your kids. You're a good spouse. I appreciate that. I mean she's really the better spouse, obviously putting up with you A hundred percent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know me personally my whole life, like I never found something that I could like be like that was special, like I could, that's something I could do and complete and be like proud of, like yeah, you're a parent, you're a thing that's great, but like not something that's like self-fulfilling. And then running was like I just like I don a race. Um, I'll never place, but I can what do you run?
Speaker 3:like a 10 minute mile what are you running?
Speaker 2:um, no, right now. So the goal is to be nine and a quarter, um, not by race one, but by race three, um. Next, my first race I'll probably be at probably 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 05. I won't be a perfect 10 minute mile, cause right now my body's still getting used to the cardio side of things. That's why I'm biking in the morning and running at night, um, but yeah so.
Speaker 2:But the good thing about everything I found out this morning I was talking to Brad about this is because I'm turning 40 next month. Um, it puts me in a new qualifying, uh, qualifier for my like division, which is I don't know if I told you this so I'm considered in the Clydesdale class because of my height and weight, which I don't know if it means I'm a beautiful, majestic, fucking horse or I'm just a fat ass. But yeah, like, I'll never forget last year when they're like oh, anthony, I just want to give you a heads up, we're putting you down and that's great, you're, you're qualifying, great for the Clydesdales. I'm like, I'm not a part of a team, like, no, like your age and weight put you in the Clydesdale class. I'm like, what do you call me A fat horse. I don't understand what the hell this means. But yeah, no so because I'm because I'm getting older.
Speaker 2:That gives me more time to complete the race, so I feel much safer about next saturday is there a staff squad class I mean, if I took my shirt off, I mean I'm pretty fucking hairy, they might. They might as well put me in that goddamn thing.
Speaker 3:No hair on top, but hair everywhere else you have to run with your arms at your side, though you can't. You can't have them up. They have to be down extended the whole way when you run.
Speaker 2:Oh, so, yeah, so that that's, that's my big journey right now, in between, and extended the whole way we run. So, yeah, so that's my big journey right now.
Speaker 1:That's terrible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's all good, I don't care, that is what it is. So, yeah, that starts next week. So I'm not drinking wine tonight, but I really wanted to. But I have two cheat dates a month. This Saturday is a big day for Brady and that'll be one of my cheat days days, and then the other one will be after race three. I'll have a big cheat day then too. So maybe I'll have to Venmo you some money to send me some good wine, because the last bottle of wine I had I about threw it at the wall. It was so gross. Mine, no, not yours, the one I bought from the store.
Speaker 3:Oh my god. No, not yours, the one I bought from the store oh my god, no, not yours, I would never do that to yours no, I, I literally went to the store.
Speaker 2:We bought wine from the last time we were here and I was looking for something. I wanted something light, um, I was looking for a riesling and I found this one. It was out of california, um, and it was. It was good vintage and everything. Everything looked good. It had great reviews online reviews online. I was scanning the app and just checking its ratings and everything was good. And I brought it home and there was this hint of almost like I don't know, it was almost a mildew taste into it and maybe it was a bad batch, but it was fucking gross.
Speaker 3:That sounds terrible too.
Speaker 2:It was a bad experience, jesus, all right, well, right, well, listen, we're 30 minutes into the show. Let's talk pearl jam, shall we? Uh, sounds good, all right. So yeah, who, who, who, who are those, who, those guys?
Speaker 3:well, we will be talking about the who so, yeah, well, 100, well, let's, so let's.
Speaker 2:You're not seeing any of the shows on the tour this year, are you? No, I'm only doing one. Um, I, you know, we had, we, we had this discussion on the last show and I'm kind of curious about this. I don't there's not as much of a buzz to this tour as I felt, like in the last couple of show, a couple tours. I'm like, not, you're not hearing a lot about it, there's not a lot about, there's not a lot of big push online. You don't know as many people like that. Most of the shows are during the week, which are the worst times possible to see concerts, especially if you're traveling. Um, yeah, it's just, it's, it's it's. You know five locations and most of them are on like a tuesday, thursday, monday, wednesday type deal, and and three of them are in florida and, uh, two of them, two of them in florida two, I thought they were.
Speaker 2:I thought like miami orlando and it's just one, it's one if they're playing one location two shows in uh, florida, they're playing in atlanta, they're playing in raleigh, north carolina, they're playing in pittsburgh and then nashville, um, and two shows each one. And then, of course, I'll be doing the festival show in new orleans, um nashville. My sister lives there and my daughter is finally going to see pearl jam. So that's, I'm going to do one show and just come back. Um, that's exciting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I'm more excited about like, going into the pit with her and just sitting in the back and dancing with her. I think it's gonna be a good time, um, so I think that's gonna be a good. It'd be a fun show, um, but yeah, like I I'm, like I said I'm seeingch Nails and my Morning Jacket multiple times this year and like I'm very much more excited about that right now than love Pearl Jam. I've said this in shows. I even got an email the other day that says I'm a Pearl Jam hater. Now, but I, you know it is what it is. But I just you know there's other bands to enjoy and love out there.
Speaker 3:How much are you paying for Jack White tickets? So the St Louis and Omaha, we paid uh like about 105 a ticket I think it was um Kansas secondhand, or is that through his, through his website?
Speaker 2:No, so I'm a part of the fan club and there's a form and we I just happened to meet a girl that we were chatting and she can't go to the shows, so bought her tickets. She, we, I just paid price for him. Okay, there we go, tell us face value is 105. Yeah, so in my morning jacket, the kansas city tickets, I got me heather and charlotte tickets. They were 71 a piece. We got ga and then for st louis I got vip for that and that was 178 for that with tax.
Speaker 2:Um, vip, what does vip get you? So this is the one thing that, like I get flustered, or pearl dream about sometimes because when I look at, like what I'm getting from my morning jacket for the cost, um, so for vip in st louis I get to go to a pre. Like they let you in before anyone else does. They're doing a sound check, a couple songs. You get a, a signed poster, you get another item. So, like an item like they give you, like one of the vip shows I went to, they gave you like a blanket that I use. Like it's a fold-up blanket. That's like um I used when I was in seattle when I was waiting in line. Um, and then you get like early to merch and all that stuff, and then you basically a guaranteed rail, like you, don't you? Just you don't have to wait in line, you just go, go.
Speaker 2:And you know, right now the newer music's coming from Jack White and my Morning Jacket, which I haven't heard anything from. So that's more exciting. And you know, in my Morning Jacket there are two new singles, I think. First of all, one of their singles I don't know if you've heard it yet Squid Ink, I think, is a Pearl Jam song that they should have wrote, because it sounds like Eddie should should be singing that song.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I haven't, and I'm embarrassed to say that they do album, I guess.
Speaker 2:Oh wait, Do you want me to play a little bit of Squid Ink real quick?
Speaker 3:Yeah you can, as long as you can, as long as you'll also then go play some Deep Sea Diver, right behind it.
Speaker 2:I can do that. We can talk new music a little bit. So what covers is? This is an easy show to get into. Let's go. My Morning Jacket Squid Ink. So this is so. They have two singles coming off their album, which comes out at the end of the month. The album is called Is. It comes out in eight days. The first song that came out was Time Waited, which that song tears me up. Time Waited is a song he wrote about, to like about like time goes by. You're waiting for it to kind of like come, and then goes by. You're waiting for it to kind of like come, and then when it comes, and it's, it's. All these things passed in between it's beautiful, but squid ink.
Speaker 1:This and jim james's vocals are off the chart. Say what you say, mean what you mean.
Speaker 2:Day after day, Live in the dream. This sounds like it could to me personally, just listening to Dance, to Clairvoyance and things like that through my morning jacket. This sounds like this could have been on Gigaton.
Speaker 3:Yeah, give it to me.
Speaker 1:Why can't I forget you? Yeah, this is awesome, this is a good one.
Speaker 2:It's on, yeah, yeah, this is awesome. This is a good one, yeah, so definitely go listen to this. This is Time Waited. The other single, the first one, came out and when I'm with so I'm seeing the first show with Charlotte and Heather I'm going to probably cry.
Speaker 1:Well, they say time waits, for no one dear, and it takes near death to show one year, but time waits.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is absolutely amazing. I mean, and the thing with Jim James that I don't think people give him enough credit for is like his vocals are. I mean, his lyrics are amazing. I mean, you're, you know this. This song starts off at well, they say time waits for no one dear and it takes near death to show one. Yeah, but time waited for you and me, like, you know, like meeting somebody, I don't know. It's just, it's a beautiful song and um, yeah, my morning jacket is is, uh, is amazing. So I'll see them. I'll see them five times this year, so I'm excited about that.
Speaker 3:That's gonna be awesome, yeah, so yeah, for sure, I know matt, uh, my buddy matt, he's going to see them. I think he's going to red rocks. Oh, nice, uh, I think he is doing. He's doing bend, for sure. I think he's doing the seattle before the bend show. So, and we may, we may, try to get down for the bend show. Oh, oh, the the bend show.
Speaker 2:You mean bend oregon. Oh, bend oregon, not the uh, because I guess that's closer to you than woodenville, because woodenville must be pretty far then woodenville is four hours when we have a taste room in woodville.
Speaker 3:By the way, you'll be a half a mile from my tasting when you go. You know what maybe?
Speaker 2:I'll have to swing in. I'll say, hey, hey, I know the owner, I know, hey, I know the guy. He told me that, uh, the open tab open tab on tree.
Speaker 3:He'll, he'll, uh, he'll be booted in no time all right.
Speaker 2:So now you wanted to hear some deep sea diver. Now I've. I'm gonna be honest with you. We've had this conversation before. Uh, when we, when I saw deep sea diver open for pearl jam, it did nothing for me and trey got on me. Trey's like you, got to give it a listen. I skimmed through it, I never and I never really gave him a chance through it I did.
Speaker 2:I skimmed through it. Now, trey has he. We were talking before the show. He's like the new album is a must listen. You got to give it a listen, so I'm pulling it up now. What song do you want to hear?
Speaker 3:just play. You play the first song off the brand new album called bill boarheart. It's great. But these all, every song is great.
Speaker 1:My baby's got a billboard heart Says please don't revive. I would paint all over it, but I'm afraid of heights. There's plenty of those old tapes playing around inside my head. I'm welcoming the future by letting go of it.
Speaker 2:But shall the clouds follow me by letting go of it, but show it comes follow me see, from what I've heard in the past to what this is now, this is a much different song than anything else I've heard. I do enjoy this. This reminds me of another band I'm trying to put my. You'll dig it. You'll dig it, get that on the list.
Speaker 3:Get that on the list this week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll give it. I guess this is the number one song off the album Shovel. Does that sound right? Based off of Spotify?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm carrying a shovel. It's pointed at the tip, like mount everest, like mount everest all right, I'll give this.
Speaker 2:I will give us an album, a true listen. I dig it, I dig it, I get I'll dig it.
Speaker 3:But you'll dig, I promise. And then I promise you I'll uh, I'll dive into the new my morning jacket well, we'll come back.
Speaker 2:I will say my morning jacket, but now you are my morning jacket fan. I still think, like I said, I don't know if you know where the fire boys are, but you need to give them a listen. I think that. I mean, I saw them all for queens of Stone Age. I've been hooked on them for two years now, so alright, now let's talk about you know.
Speaker 3:Alan Johannes. Alan Johannes is in that band.
Speaker 2:Alan Johannes is in what band?
Speaker 3:guitar player. He was one of the guitar players for Queens of Stone Age is in Deep Sea Diver no, no, no. You just you said, didn't you just say Queens of the Stone Age, yeah, viagra Boys opened up for them. I'm just saying that Alan Johans one of the guitar players there.
Speaker 1:He played our place.
Speaker 2:Oh I got you. You I mean the lineup of people you've had play at your winery.
Speaker 3:We get the people man Jesus. Anthony's been there. Brad and Sam have been there.
Speaker 2:I don't know about Listen. I'm very low on that list. I ain't as cool as those other people. But let's talk about covers, shall we? A lot of people I mean Pearl Jam's known for playing covers. I mean they play covers of all their songs and I think that we've talked about this in the past. I don't like the fact that I play so many covers now because the set lists are shorter. Like that is just me. I don't need to hear Rocking in the Free World. I don't need to hear Bob O'Reilly or, as I said in the past, bob O'Reilly. That was yeah, yeah, I don't need to hear it. I'd rather hear another Pearl Jam song. So covers to me. But tonight we're going to be talking about bands that have covered Pearl Jam, and I think the most popular one that everyone knows is Willie Nelson's Just Breathe. I think that's the most. I mean, over the last couple of years that was a huge hit. I mean that was pretty unique in its own sense.
Speaker 3:I mean, when you think of songs that were covered from Pearl Jam. Is there any that come to your mind for you? Um, you mean by their bands?
Speaker 3:correct yeah, um, probably, uh, ben harper, um, with, uh, indifference, that's a good one. I mean that's a really good one. Plus he's, you know, I remember when he opened for pearl jam he came out and would sing that with eddie, but he also would go out and play that on. That's a good one. I mean that's a really good one. Plus, I remember when he opened for Pearl Jam he came out and would sing that with Eddie, but he also would go out and play that on his own. I thought that's really good.
Speaker 2:Chris Cornell Footsteps. That's another great one, Yep.
Speaker 3:With the Avid brothers. Yep. Glenn Hansard, oh yeah, liam Finn. Glenn Hansard, oh yeah, liam Finn's. Glenn Hansard's done Smile, he's done Smile.
Speaker 2:Liam Finn Habit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, those are some good ones right there. Post Malone just did Better man.
Speaker 2:Better man on Howard Stern, that's right. But I mean I will say this At least the one thing I think is Willie Nelson cover. He makes it his own. Yeah, yes. Not a huge Willie Nelson fan, I'm not jumping through hoops to see Willie Nelson Appreciate him. I know what he's done for Country music and His genre music his son, lucas Nelson's amazing.
Speaker 3:But he sings this with Lucas. That's what I love about this. My favorite part about them covering that is the two of them singing that together to each other. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean yes, especially with the idea of what the song's about. Yeah, god, yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3:It's a beautiful song. It really is. How long Willie.
Speaker 2:Nelson's been touring for and still continues to tour. That's one of those people that he's going to die on the road. I mean it's just because he's doing what he loves.
Speaker 3:Willie, he's 90, right.
Speaker 2:I think he's probably older than 90, don't you think?
Speaker 3:90-something, but he is still touring. He's rocking that weed brand. Yes, he is. I mean, that's the other thing. He's like that dude's still alive. Come on, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, willie Nelson is. He is 91, born April 29th 1933.
Speaker 3:He'll be 92 next month he's probably been touring. Look this up. How long is? When did Willie Nelson start touring?
Speaker 2:I mean Let me see, he's since the 19. 1956. Holy moly he was 23.
Speaker 3:He was 23 when he went on tour for the first time, so he's been touring for 70 years.
Speaker 2:Jesus, he's touring longer than people have been alive, like in general, people have never even made it to 70. And this guy is Don says Immortality by Seath. That's crazy. I've never heard that one. I don't know if I know that cover. I have to check that out. Oh oh, you don't want me to pull it up.
Speaker 3:You know how, about Miley Cyrus doing Better man or no, Miley Cyrus doing Just Breathe? I didn't know. She did Just Breathe, she did a. I thought it was a good version of it.
Speaker 2:Huh, here's Immortality by Seether. I'll go in a little bit more on the song, so we can. Oh no, this is the gift. What the heck, I clicked the wrong thing. Anthony, with big fingers is like. That is definitely not immortality. Immortality, here we go. It takes a lot of balls to try to cover this song.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they should get you a player. Yeah, it's like an acoustic session is what they're playing in. How about this one? St Vincent did Tremor Christ.
Speaker 2:Oh God, First of all, I'm wearing a St Vincent shirt. St Vincent.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I've ever heard that?
Speaker 2:I've never heard that either. Okay, hold on, this is All right, here we go, thank you. Did I ever tell you when I met St Vincent and we talked about Pearl Jam and she signed my ukulele? Yeah, so I have this ukulele I keep next to my desk, oh shit, and this has been signed by a lot of people. But she signed it like liam finn, portugal, the man. Oh, here it is. Uh, she wrote jeremy spoke in class today. Saint vincent, right there. I don't know if you can see that or not nice what?
Speaker 2:yeah, so when I started for uh photographing outside, uh, right out of college and before she really got popular, I got to see her in a small club and the idea of this ukulele, which has been signed by a lot of people, was I took this ukulele with me and I had it signed by every artist that I photographed leading up to me photographing Pearl Jam. So that's been signed by a lot of stars. Anna, I mean a ton of people been signed by a lot of star. Anna, I mean a ton of people. But yeah, that was good. It was like a clip she filmed backstage somewhere I have no idea. But St Vincent, I think, is one of the greatest female singers in all of music right now. I've seen her quite a few times. I think she's amazing. What she's done with Nirvana, what she's done with her new album, everything, I mean, she is just absolutely amazing.
Speaker 3:Yeah Good, Just a great good performer all around too, oh a hundred percent Um state performer yeah.
Speaker 2:There was one I found online I'm going to try to see if I can find it again of this artist, roma Rex, and she covered black and I had no idea who Roma Rex was.
Speaker 3:Wilbur, w-i-l-b-u-r Wilbur.
Speaker 2:Is that what you said? Roma R-A-M-O-N-A Rex? I can't, even Now. I can't even find the fucking thing. Maybe I even spelled her name wrong. I have no idea, probably. Look at me. I took all these notes, all these notes getting everything ready and who the hell knows, but it was like she had an amazing voice and I was like who the hell is? Oh, here we go. It's Roma Rocks here. This is this. This artist that's real popular I've never heard of. I'm trying to remember who sent this to me recently and this is kind of what made me want to look at Pearl Jam covers.
Speaker 2:But she's a Spanish singer, I think she's. I want to say she's from Mexico. I could be wrong. I mean my notes have already been wrong, but this has been watched over 300,000 times and was posted not that long ago. Wow, yeah, so there's that one. But I still think the greatest song, the greatest cover of a Pearl Jam song by any artist which is kind of like cheating a little bit because the song is kind of shared and we've already talked about it but I mean Chris Cornell I still think is one of the greatest vocalists of all time period. Like, just might as well, just put your damn stamp on it, but Hold on, I don't like when it's the crowd version. Sorry, give me one second. Here we go.
Speaker 3:Oh, Chris Cornell doing footsteps.
Speaker 2:Yeah, chris Cornell, doing footsteps is easily the greatest. Yeah, god, don't even think about reaching me. I won't be home. Don't even think about stopping. So you said Long Road by Michael St. All right, I think this is it. And Natalie Merchant, is that the one you're looking at? Mm-hmm, got it pulled it. This is a good thing about yourself, woo.
Speaker 3:Great enough to me you able to share that screen? Is that a video or audio? It's just audio.
Speaker 2:Is there one that has video as well? I have no idea.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:It's kind of a crime that he's not performing anymore, like he pops up here and there, but he's got a voice of an angel who, natalie Merchant, michael, I mean REM, michael Stipe, yeah, you know that he just did a.
Speaker 3:They just had a little REM reunion down in Athens at the 40 Watt Club.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did one song right. He came out rem song and then I guess he played a couple of cover songs. I think something else he said uh, today, like uh, what was it called? He said that, uh he'll. That rem will never happen like he's, like people ask for it. We've been throwing a lot of money. I have no desire to do it. I've done everything already and that's one of those bands that's a bummer that is a bummer.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I mean, here's the one thing. While all these are amazing and they are amazing in their own sense even that Seether one was fantastic. I mean, the guy was really hitting it in his own way. He had kind of like an Aaron the lead singer of Stains vocals almost in a way, and I think that guy's covered Pearl Jam before too.
Speaker 3:I'm sure they have.
Speaker 2:Probably, but Pearl Jam before too I'm sure they have Probably, but you know it's so. Cover songs are cover songs, like it's just it's giving tribute to that song, it's giving your own flair to it. I think Willie Nelson did a really good job of almost making his own, like if you never heard of the song before or didn't know who Pearl Jam was. It's kind of their thing. But I mean, it's not, it's. I think that's the one thing that like is is kind of a true statement, like you're just covering it, you're you're doing something, but it's almost in the same sense, the same thing with pearl jam that I have such a frustration time with it's. Like I get it. You're showing respect to some artists you're doing. You're doing the who, you're doing the ramones, you're doing a lot of different things, I mean, but it's just not. I just wish you would just give me some more. I mean, I'm looking at, so looking at livefootstepsorg, right, they've covered a lot of bands. You ready, you want to give me a list of just some of the bands they've covered? Sure, abba. Well, you know what? Let's do this.
Speaker 2:Actually, we have a really cool thing. It's called, called. I can show you. So we have abba, acdc, we have arrow smith, we have alice cooper, allison chains, arlith alexander, arthur smith, audio, audio slave. When they cover audio slave. Well, guess what? With livefootstepsorg, you just click the link, click like a stone, and then it tells you right there, 2003, and santa barbara bowl with oh, I guess, acoustic guest Chris Cornell. Oh wow, interesting. Had no idea, but that's the cool thing about this. But I mean, there's so many songs that you can go and check out and find out. But I will say my favorite cover song I love it. They were covering Bad Radio.
Speaker 3:Favorite cover song. They were covering Bad Radio. When did they play? Believe you Me, though.
Speaker 2:Believe you Me, they played that. Let me click it. And they played it, it looks like twice Once in 2014 in Milton Keyes Arena in the UK, and then they played it for the first time at the Borgata in Atlantic City, new Jersey.
Speaker 3:Wow, 2005. 2005. The borgata in atlantic city, new jersey wow, 2005. Yeah, I remember hearing that uh bad radio, uh tape for the first time, like you know, like way back when, when you found that he had under a ban, you figure I can't remember how you figure I even get that shit, but maybe it was like a year or two later, but I remember hearing that stuff was pretty, that was like that.
Speaker 2:That was like the, that was a trade, that was a the tape trading days. Back then you had you know, I remember when I first really got heavy in a Pearl gym, like it was, it was you had to burn CDs and ship them to people like, hey, I got, I got this bootleg, I got to somebody and then they plugged it up and now this hard drive is full of two terabytes worth of just Pearl Jam live music from God and I probably have never listened to it.
Speaker 3:How about that. Masters of War, though, come on. Masters of War, you can't tell me, you get tired of Masters of War.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but here's the thing, Masters of War. I guarantee they've only played it what? 5 times? Oh, 18 times. I was wrong, but I mean it's still, it's not being butchered to death 18 times. They've played it like 2016, 2008, 2006, 2004. It's been sporadic. The most it was played 6 times in 2004, 2005 and 2005. I think I saw it in DC. If I remember correctly, I, I think I saw it in DC. If I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure I saw it in DC. Yeah, washington DC, may 30th, my re-proposter print. They played it, but like, let's now, let's go to the who. Right, let's just jump right into the who, shall we? Where is the? Am I going the right way here?
Speaker 2:Who, who you know the who to the who, shall we? Where's the? Am I going the right way here? Who who? You know the who? Let's go to the who, right? And oh, they've covered a lot of neil young too. Holy shit, that's almost the whole catalog let's see how much neil young are. They covered shit uh one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, a lot.
Speaker 3:Um, they uh cortez the killer, they, they played that only once, though, I think right, and it was at the Gorge, I think well, we click it and we find out they played it once in Toledo, ohio.
Speaker 2:What with Neil Young, peggy Young, and Peter Frampton.
Speaker 3:What show was that?
Speaker 2:that was Toledo, Ohio, the Sports Arena, October 2nd 2004.
Speaker 3:Was that a Pearl Jam show? Was it a guest appearance you?
Speaker 2:know what let's YouTube that shall we? Let's see if they have it. Pearl Jam.
Speaker 3:No, no, that's fine, you take it, you take it, you take it.
Speaker 2:It's not the easiest thing to eat on camera um, yeah, this.
Speaker 3:So I guess it was neil young live with that's live in salisbury, that's salisbury 95. So they were. They were his backing band. Then that wasn't a pearl jam show, that was a neil young show so that's's 95.
Speaker 2:There's no video of it online. It's almost like it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3:But let's watch that top one though.
Speaker 2:We can go into just a hair. Let's go and see and to think the size of the camcorder that had to probably go into that place to take the shitty footage of this was probably on the guy's shoulder. How the hell he snuck that in.
Speaker 3:Jack Iron behind the kid back there, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 2:Oh man, oh man. So yeah, look, I mean, come on, this is why I like live footsteps. But I mean they've covered a shit ton of uh of bands. But, like I said, the thing that frustrates me is and we're gonna go down here because we're gonna go I remember I actually saw them cover jay-z's 99 problems. That was a very um, that was an interesting one. Um, I still think black diamond by kiss should be covered more if they're gonna cover this one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let's see mike watt and mike watt uh, where is he?
Speaker 2:played chili peppers yeah, red hot chili peppers. Let me see qr. Where is it? I'm going fast. I Funky Crime. That's probably earlier in their career. Sex Pistols, let's see. And the. Look at all the stuff they've covered, though. Isn't that amazing? Yeah, I mean the Laws Timeless Melody.
Speaker 3:Look at all the stones.
Speaker 2:A good amount of stones. Yeah, and where is here's the who? They haven't covered as many songs as Neil Young, I would say. But if you go to, let's see, let's go, bob O'Reilly, click it, and 186 times that's a little much.
Speaker 3:They've opened with that before, though.
Speaker 2:How cool would that have been. Let's see where they opened it with. They'll tell you. I got to use their map. Hold on Open. Where's the little thing? Live intros, tags, show opener. So show opener, is this one? All right? So we got to find that on the ledger on the side. It's probably early. It's got to be early in their career. So we're in 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010. Come on and shit.
Speaker 1:Guys, this is what I'm saying so many times 94, 93, 92. So they shit how many guys.
Speaker 2:This is what I'm saying so many times, 94, 93, 92. So they opened up in irvin meadows, irvin, california, um, on september 13th. Bob o'reilly sonic reducer even flowed jeremy, a live porch rocking in the free world, hunger strike, reach down. Open with two covers and this one. They had four covers in this Bob O'Reilly Sonic Reducer Rocking in the Free World and Hunger Strike and Reach Down.
Speaker 3:Jesus and the day before. Look at those. Those are three days. What was that? That must have been a festival or something, no?
Speaker 2:Irving Meadows, Irvin, California. That is interesting Because it was the last day. They're like yeah, fuck it, we're just going to throw some shit on the wall.
Speaker 3:That's almost a week after dropping the park.
Speaker 2:Crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hmm.
Speaker 2:So what is your favorite Pearl Jam cover song? Like, what song do you get excited for that Pearl Jam covers? And if you say Bob O'Reilly, I'm throwing my glass across the fucking room.
Speaker 3:You can't say that. Maybe that was my answer. I do like Sonic Reducer a lot. Yeah, I had no idea the Dead Boys were, you know, until they played that song. Um, uh, I love masters of war. I remember hearing that for the first time and just being like it just threw me for a loop. I thought, wow, this guy's. Like you know, we're basically covering the one of the greatest songwriters of all time and, um, I think, like, almost like elev, maybe not elevating the song, but certainly, um, you know, he did a good job of framing that. Um, he did, they did with the Johnny Cash cover, they do let me check real quick, 25 minutes ago, 25 minutes ago.
Speaker 3:I love that cover. That's like a. That's a great song, so there it's interesting think about how, um, how diverse their catalog of bands that they've covered. Right, you've got country guys, you've got you know soul singers. You've got rock, you've got you know they. The lou reed, I mean like fucking Van Halen, you know like Cheap Trick, like they played, they cover a lot of different genres you know, last Kiss, that's a weird song to cover that sort of pulled that out of the hat. Who would ever remember that song, you know?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they can put that back in the vault. I with you, I'm with you.
Speaker 3:But here's the thing you know, the first, I guarantee the first, three to five times you heard that you're like oh, this is so great, I can't believe how nostalgic and then when they record, when they, when they closed every, every uh show with it for yeah for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was. It was brutal. Um. You know I enjoyed um in 2002 when they uh the drive by rem. I thought that was a.
Speaker 2:Really I was surprised that eddie was able to handle michael's vocals in a way that I felt like it was good that he was doing it later on in his career where I think his vocals fit that tone now, where I think it wouldn't have been as good early on in in his more of his higher pitched uh, you know that he sings so low now that he sings within that register, even though he's, you know, his notes might be an entire octave lower than mike michael stipe's register, is it still?
Speaker 3:uh, sounds good at that lower uh register, you know I I agree yeah, I did like that song a lot.
Speaker 2:I Believe in Miracles by the Ramones is another one that I love when they do. That's one of my favorite Ramones songs and I think they did that really well. And the one that I was like when I was looking through everything. I've never seen it live and I couldn't believe I didn't. I had no idea that they actually did this was. They did go into California by Led Zeppelin. They did it in 2005. They did it with Robert plant at the house of blues in Chicago when they did that joint show.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:That was they did it. But I mean, going to California is. I mean, that is a beautiful song, so I'm not sure how. How about are?
Speaker 3:you sick of crazy Mary.
Speaker 2:You know I Are you sick of Crazy Mary? You know I kind of am. I get it. I understand the love of it and stuff like that, but I've seen it so many times. It's kind of like I for years was chasing bugs and now I feel like I've seen every variation of it and I'm like, all right, I'm kind of over bugs now.
Speaker 3:I mean I would have been fine, just never hearing Bugs at all. Anyway, it's like what's the point?
Speaker 2:I don't know. It's kind of a fun. It's a fun crazy song.
Speaker 2:But once you hear it once you're like I get it, it's over. You know there's a lot of them. Just like Heaven by the Cure was a good one, what was the other one that I was looking at on the list? I believe it was. I think they covered Frank Sinatra my Way at one point and then they've done Fugazi a bunch too as well, and Waiting Room is so good and I think Jeff does a really good rendition of Waiting Room. I got the. You know he did. That was in 91. They did it one time at Cal Palace in California. There's an audio version of it. But yeah, Jeff really kills the bass lines on Fugazi for the Waiting Room, which I think that's another amazingly talented band that just, I mean they just they did themselves in with not being able to take in marketing and really push the band. They just wanted to be the band that plays and goes home. But yeah, Fugazi amazing.
Speaker 3:That was what they wanted to be. They had no aspiration to be anything else, and and that was that's one of my favorite stories in the pearl jam, doc, is uh, I can't remember if it was stone or mike or jeff or whoever it was, but they were like. You know, ed wanted this band to be fugazi and you were like, do that? That train left the fucking station three years ago you know, like that.
Speaker 3:You know it just not. You were not going to be able to do that at all, and so, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:But I do love, yeah, the great band, the great band. And then the one song I'm jealous I didn't hear live um that I've gotten to hear, and I I think that first of all, I'm big David Bowie fan. And when they did Ziggy Sardust in uh 2000,. Um, in New Mexico, new Mexico. That would have been something really really cool to see yeah they didn't.
Speaker 2:For my understanding they didn't play the whole song. It was kind of a tease, but they've done some other Bowie songs in the past and yeah, I know David Bowie is great and you know fame, golden years, heroes, rebel, rebel, ash to ashes.
Speaker 2:So some good stuff there. But yeah, I mean, like I said, if they're going to do covers, I would almost rather them do something we haven't heard than do the repetitiveness of the who or you know, just things we've heard a million times. I feel like it's beaten over the head. But I will say this, and this is what I said on the last show Unfortunately, we're at a point in our lives with the band that it is a business.
Speaker 2:They're comfortable in what they're doing. Like, do they really? I understand they have this large catalog, but they really want to dive deep into it because they don't necessarily need to anymore. They don't have to make it as crazy as it used to be, because this is not 34, 34 long, 34 song sets. These are 22, 22, 23, 24 song sets. Um, where they're just playing, they're, they're gonna, you're gonna get some hits in there, you're gonna get some of the new album and then you're gonna get some sporadic things. But the sporadic things like the last tour were sporadic across all the shows, like it wasn't you, you would get it. Every other show was like I don't know, it's just, it's just different. But you have to grow with the band. That's the thing. Like it's just you can't expect the same what the band gave you in 2002 or 2006 to come out and do it now yep, you're correct I, I, I some listen.
Speaker 2:I mean they're yeah they're, you know, they're 60 years old, so I hope I look as good as they do at 60, especially jeff. I don't know how what kind of vampire blood or uh pack with satan he made, but that man does not age.
Speaker 3:In fact he jumps around the stage the way he does Skateboard. Plus, he's got skateboarding knees. It's like that can't be. It's amazing. He's obviously taken care of himself over the years. So athletic, basketball player and all that stuff you know.
Speaker 2:So, um, I don't know that makes sense so you know, talking about pearl jam getting into this whole thing, um, what do you think the outcome of the end of this year? Do you think pearl jam is a tour more, or you think this is it for this year, with this gc's five shows, these five locations?
Speaker 3:I think that I think the way the business, I think the way the business is, you would know if they're touring by the end of the year by now. I would think you would. Just you know how long it takes to set. When do these tickets go on sale for this tour Back in October?
Speaker 2:November, I think November.
Speaker 3:Six months out. Maybe, I mean, you know, six months out. So, anyway, I mean, maybe I don't know, I I think that they're happy to take it. They, you know, they'll probably look at this as well. We're closed out, that last album, you know, we basically toured everywhere for that last album, and so they can get back into songwriting mode, they can get back into their own projects mode, I know stone has been really digging into loose groove.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, they've got a ton of stuff coming out this year. Um, I know that um, satchel, brad, I know regan and his um bandmates have been working on and stone, for that matter, with loose groove, have been working to um, I think, get back the rights to all their music and stuff from satchel and brad and all that they do. That that'll allow them to, um, you know, do whatever they want with their catalog, which is great. Um, again, they've got some cool new bands and stuff coming out.
Speaker 3:So, um, you know they all have their things, sure you know. So you know whether it's side music, gigs or just taking time off because they're 60 you know like, and they don't have to do it.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's anything at this point don't have to do anything At this point.
Speaker 3:it only makes them happy. Am I right Like?
Speaker 3:they're not doing it to make a living. No, they're doing it to have fun and to create, which is also part of their DNA, and that's the thing is that it's somewhat different than someone who just does a job where you know one day you retire from being an accountant and you're like fuck, I wish I could go do another spreadsheet Maybe there are. I'm not backing on accounts, by the way. I'm just like making a point of like a job that I admire. Someone will have the ability to do that stuff.
Speaker 3:Uh, but as a creative, as if you're an artist, I feel like it's probably much harder to like just say I don't want to do this anymore. Maybe they don't want to anymore. I have find it very hard to believe, and especially when you look at all the other artists that are still produced we just talked about. Like you know, I mean, uh, bob dylan is still touring. You know we're talking about all the people that they're still to. Willie nelson, bob dylan's still touring, you know, like, uh they don't need the tour for money no at all they.
Speaker 3:They don't need the tour for money. No at all they. Although it is hard for me to believe that bob dylan derives pleasure from touring, because I've watched that guy a few times live and I'm like he doesn't have any fun at all no, no, what, what?
Speaker 2:it was, but maybe he is he really is that's just.
Speaker 3:This is demeanor. I have no idea. I've never seen him. I did enjoy the documentary, by the way, a lot. I thought the Bob Dylan documentary was really well done.
Speaker 2:I haven't watched it.
Speaker 3:Oh, Timothee.
Speaker 2:Chalamet was really good. Oh, the movie I think you said a documentary the movie.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm sorry, the movie, the movie, yeah. But anyway, I find it hard to believe that, even if Pearl Jam is an entity, I feel like they're just never going to break up, break up. I think they'll just take longer and longer breaks and, you know, maybe they'll get together for a you know, a benefit show, or who knows what's going to happen, I mean. But I think they're always going to create, they're always going to have their own stuff, even if it's solo stuff.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, you know what they could be're always going to create, they're always going to have their own stuff, even if it's solo stuff. Well, I mean, you know what they could be. I'm going to pull up something here. There is an artist right now performing. I'm going to put this video up real quick and then we can move on. But have you seen the videos of Frankie Valli right now? Have you?
Speaker 3:Of who.
Speaker 2:Frankie Valli. Frankie Valli, like from the 50s. Yeah, he's touring. Watch this.
Speaker 3:Come on.
Speaker 2:Come on. Oh, I have no sound. Oh, why is there no sound? Here we go, he's not singing.
Speaker 3:You know what, though? Here's the thing Nobody in this crowd has any idea he's not singing. They can't see that dude. Everyone in that crowd is 80 over. You know it.
Speaker 2:There's a video of him coming out. There's a better one. Let me see if I can find it real quick.
Speaker 1:There's one of him lip syncing.
Speaker 2:Oh it's brutal. Here we go, look at this, watch this. This is great. This is fantastic. Come on, where is it?
Speaker 3:Unable to blink at 90 years old.
Speaker 2:Zero odds of blinking.
Speaker 1:No it's not.
Speaker 3:That's terrible, though. Oh, it's brutal. Why are they doing that to him? We're his caretakers.
Speaker 2:It's probably his greedy children, just like getting me some money.
Speaker 3:It's probably his greedy children marching him out there, marching his ass.
Speaker 2:They're probably like we— Frankie Val.
Speaker 3:LLC.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they're like just— that's awful, they're like scooting his ass out. Oh God, it's brutal and I've watched. Uh, there's videos of him like afterwards meeting fans and like he doesn't blink, his lips barely move and everyone's like it's uh. It's like uh, was it mike? What's that move the um weekend at bernie's it's like they're just dragging around a dead guy like just moving his lips, but so weekend at bernie's, come on a great movie great movie.
Speaker 2:Look at that, I'm digging in deep. So, um, I asked you, I emailed you yesterday. I said, hey, we're gonna, we're gonna start this new segment called vinyl rewind. And what we're gonna do with vinyl rewind is basically said. It's just gonna be we're gonna.
Speaker 2:You know me and trey talk about random shit on the show, but one thing we talk about that we have in common is music and our love for different bands and things of nature, and sometimes we talk about things that we don't know about. Like you know, he's opening my eyes to Deep Sea Diver. I talked about Viagra Boys, different things of that nature, getting him into listening to my Morning Jacket. But the purpose of this segment and I even created a cool graphic Vinyl Rewind, vinyl Rewind, vinyl Rewind. Hold on, vinyl Rewind, vinyl Rewind, vinyl Rewind is that it's all about going back, digging deep into that catalog of music that you may have listened to in a long time or never listened to before, and you know. So I asked you do you want to talk about yours first or do you want me to go first? We get one album each is that right?
Speaker 3:one album each, that's the name of the game. So next Thursday, to go first, then we get one album each, is that right? One album each, that's it. That's the name of the game. Um so, um, next thursday, uh, I'm doing my third installation of what, uh, it's called the six degrees of, and I've been featuring different artists and starting with, uh, the, the beginning artist.
Speaker 3:And how do you? Six albums, where do you end up and what are the connections between each album, right? So the first back in January, I did the Six Degrees of Pink Floyd and I went from Pink Floyd into Abbey Road, into Alan Parsons Project, into the Scorpions love drive, into twisted sister, into billy joel. Each one of those connections, uh, there's a connection from one album to the next in some way, shape or form. It could be a guest artist that played on a song on that album, it could be a, the studio where it was recorded, it could be the recording engineer, it could be the, the designer, or the album cover, but something that ties these bands in together, right?
Speaker 3:So this month and next week I've got the six degrees of rem, and so I had been diving into some of rem's um, past catalog and stuff. And um, murmur was their first album which came out in the early 80s, like 82, 83 and um, I just remember how great that album is, diving back into that thing and so, and at the time when it came out, I could care less about that was. I did not want to listen to that. It wasn't until like the late 80s, early 90s, when I really sort of backtracked into rem because I had spent my entire high school days uh, you know, 84 to 88 listening to heavy metal, and so it was so fun to rediscovering them, just for me discovering for the first time in the late eighties, early nineties. But you know, there's a lot of stuff you don't listen to for for no other reason than they just fall off your radar, you forget about them or whatever. And it was really fun diving back into their entire, really their entire, catalog from the early 2000s and back. I I am, you know, I just have not listened to a lot of their new stuff. So that's not that, that's on me, that's not on the band that making a subpar product. I just have not listened to them at all.
Speaker 3:Great album too, yes, but this is Murmur is. You know, it's a fantastic album. It's got Radio Free Europe on it, which is, I think, what a killer opening track. Talk about the passion, which is a great song. Perfect Circle is a great song, like, but top to bottom, uh, it is. When you think about what was like what defined college radio, oh you almost have to think, like rem really was college radio, like these early albums. These early albums were not radio albums, they were college radio station albums, you know, um, and they so they weren't being played on all the major markets and all the. You know that just wasn't. That's not where you heard them. You heard them on college radio stations, um, and that's that's why it you know those first three to five years, that's kind of where they, that's that was their fan base for sure. Until that, you know, I can't tell you what the first big huge song was that propelled them to radio status.
Speaker 2:But it was probably three or four songs in you know. I would say wouldn't Orange Crush be the song that really got them the radio play, or was that after Losing my Relief? I?
Speaker 3:mean, let's see here, yet reckoning had yeah, no nothing.
Speaker 1:I mean no nothing reckoning nothing fables.
Speaker 3:I don't think driver 8 was a great song. There's a radio song that was a college radio song. Yeah, that was a great song, driver 8,. Oh my God, life's Rich Pageant yeah, none of these.
Speaker 2:No, so it's got to be so. Well, it was 94 was.
Speaker 3:I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean they do have a lot of fucking great songs, yeah, but once again, it's funny that we've leaned on REM when we were just talking about them a little while ago, about why are they? You know, the fact they're not touring is kind of criminal. Yeah, their biggest album.
Speaker 3:I mean Shiny Happy People. That was a big that was a big. We should do karaoke on the show hold on, let me hit record real quick. Go ahead, it's being recorded.
Speaker 2:It's everywhere. It's live jesus um. But I crush was always. You know, crush was always my I. I always our orange crush was always my favorite song. That was I just love this. This. Like if I had a. This is a great walk-in song. Like you go walk into a club, you just kind of you know, just kind of it's kind of happy. Then you tell brady that could be.
Speaker 3:You tell brady that could be his walk out to the field song he has brady has.
Speaker 2:So brady, I don't know if brady has one song that he's listened to before every game before he moved to kansas city and since we lived in kansas city. It is one band from the pacific northwest and it's funny because it doesn't even flow with the music listen to, but he has one song by one artist that he plays before every show. Do you know what it is? No, so I've never told you this. This artist, which I'll play the song real quick. Um, this artist actually played the song for brady live mentioned him, talked about how the he played. He's playing it for me because it hypes him up and everything like that. All All this stuff, this song I'm pulling it up now is from 2019. The song is here we go Rainwolf, over and over.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 2:Rainwolf. This is Brady's hype song before every game. I mean, if there's a song that you want to run through a fucking wall, it's this one, I would think.
Speaker 1:in my opinion, but this song is the bass.
Speaker 2:But yeah, this is great. He's seen Rainwolf a few times. I've seen him quite a few times. They need to put out new music too, ps. I'm going him quite a few times. They need to put out new music too. Ps. I'm going to have to email Jordan. They need to put out some new music. Yes, it's been fucking six years Time up for new music, so but yeah, all right, now I am going to play what I am playing. I guess what I found this band is probably the band that got me really heavy into looking outside the modern music scene. So I was really this is when I really started digging into record stores in 2004, really trying to find different things that were outside the modern music. And while this band you know there were songs that came out in 2005 off this album that kind of played, where the band was called Secret Machines you familiar with them I remember that band.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so secret machine, I love them. Oh, you like them. Oh, he's a big fan.
Speaker 2:Oh, nowhere again. The uh album came out may 18th 2004, was like I. That album, I remember, was the first time I was mesmerized by an entire album, like I was with dark side of the moon by pink Floyd, because there is elements of pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin tones in the album. Um, it's a three piece band that had two brothers and a friend on it and God, their, their, their music is just stunning and I, oh God, I love this album. This was their biggest hit off that album and it's called Nowhere Again, which is funny because the album is called Nowhere is no, now here is nowhere. But yeah, this is such an amazing band band. I never got to see him live. Um, unfortunately, the uh, the one of the brothers, the guitarist, passed away in 2013. Um, the band tried touring without him and just never was the same. Um, but yeah, secret machines is amazing, I mean, is amazing, I mean sad, and lonely.
Speaker 2:What do you compare him to? This music right now reminds me of very Led Zeppelin. His vocals are much higher pitched, like in a way that it's not Robert Plant, but it's different. But God, they were just. It kills me Because there was an opportunity I could have seen them, the Strokes and the Killers. I think it was Like. It was like this one. Yeah, I was going to say I got to this.
Speaker 3:I got a little bit of a Killers vibe off that very first track you played.
Speaker 2:Oh, but yeah, this is, if you want to go down a rabbit hole, this band. They didn't put out a lot of music. I think they only had three albums. But yeah, this is God. This is so good. But yeah, it's a sad story. I mean, you know, the brother unfortunately died of cancer 2013. So it was a short shelf life for the band only nine years. But God, yeah. So yeah, if you want to go down to Rabbit Hole. But yeah, this is the band that I think, like I remember getting this album and like I was like man, this is just because it was nobody was talking about it, but lady at the record store was like, oh, give this a listen.
Speaker 2:I gave it a listen and then that got me open, and then I started learning about the aes and then that got me down a rabbit hole. So everything. But yeah, this is such an overlooked album. I would say, in my opinion, this is probably in the top 50 albums that come out from 2000 to 2009 and that that like that music, however you want to call it. But yeah, this is an amazing album. And, listen, your wife has great taste, because I'm glad that she knows who it is, but you know what?
Speaker 3:Once again, she was a senior in high school, Anthony, so that's probably one of her favorite bands.
Speaker 2:I think me and Holly are the same age.
Speaker 3:She's 2006. I mean 96., 86., 86., 86. Oh, she's younger than me 2006.
Speaker 2:I said damn Trey, Good for you. I don't know, it's a little young, but hey, if you can pull it.
Speaker 3:People look at me very differently at that point.
Speaker 2:No, she's a year younger than me. Okay, so I'm knocking on the door 40 next month. But yeah, secret Machines Now here Is Nowhere is an amazing album. It came out in 2004,. So 21 years ago, which is crazy to think how long ago that album came out. But yeah, I would definitely give that a listen to. I think that is an amazing album that I mean today.
Speaker 3:Today came out in 2000. That was 25 years old now, jesus, jesus. So for me, here's how I think about that. Anthony I think about if I was. Uh was a 18 year old kid right, born in 1969, and I backtracked 25 years at that point, uh, from from 1988, so now I'm at 60, 1963.
Speaker 3:That's the difference between 1963 and 1988 and musical and music right like early beatles, early stones, early dylan, uh, you know, elvis was whatever he was, you still. But and then tonight, that's 25 years ago. So when we think about music 25 years ago and we go from today to what I think about, when I say that out loud, what I think is that music is as fresh today as anything is. You go listen to Kid A and plug that in and that album Top to Bottom. If that came out today you wouldn't be surprised. You'd be like holy fucking shit, I can't believe they made this. What is this? I? You still say that. Yeah, I agree. And uh, I don't know if you could say that about 1963 when, when everything still had is very much rooted, it had not really grown, they didn't have the technology to do everything that we do today. And yeah, it was technological limitations, it wasn't musical limitations of the artist, it was. These are the tools that we have, this is what we can do and we're going to make noise with it.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm going to end the show with this. I just pulled up to kind of make us feel old. You want to hear 11 influential albums turning 30 this year.
Speaker 3:Okay, sure, yeah, 1995.
Speaker 2:Okay, oasis' what's the Story of Morning Glory? Absolutely amazing album. Are you an Oasis fan or no? No, oh, you're missing out. Nope. Radiohead the Bends Yep, great one, agreed. Yep, be missing out, no. Radiohead the Benz yep, great one, agreed. Yeah. Um, then you have Smashing Pumpkins, melancholy and Infinite Sadness great one, yeah. Alanis Morissette more Alanis Morissette. Jack, a little pill. That might be another album that is probably going to stand the test of time, because that is from track one all the way through the bottom. Just an amazing album. Don't know, you don't know it.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm sure I've heard a couple of songs about that, but I was never a huge like listen to the entire Alanis Morissette album front to back.
Speaker 2:Well, you ought to know it. See what I did there. Did you see what?
Speaker 3:I did, you did.
Speaker 2:A garbage, garbage. Self-titled album came out that year that was. I still think she's a criminally underrated lead singer. Shirley Manson and Butch Vig. No Doubt's Tragic Kingdom, which that was kind of like what skyrocketed. Gwen Stefani yeah.
Speaker 3:Red Hot.
Speaker 2:Chili Peppers One Hot Minute. Yep, I love that album. Foo Fighters self-titled album came out.
Speaker 3:That was my album of the year. That was my album of the year. That was my album of the year. I'd never been so excited about listening to an album when that came out and then finding out afterwards that he had recorded every instrument and when I heard that I was like blown away because I was already like this guy is one of the greatest drummers of all time and then he could play guitar and bass and sing like that I was. I love that album so much uh, acdc ball breaker no, what?
Speaker 3:how's that influence? 1995 they were already 10 years past there.
Speaker 2:No I'm just giving green day insomniac. That was another. That was this album after, uh, it was called dookie. That was a pretty good album. And then, oh this, oh, this is a good one White Zombie, astro Creep 2000. I love White Zombie when I'm working out I get into it, get down, yeah, yeah. So this is it but 30, I mean you think about it, though. I remember going to get in the record store Like I love that Radio had the bends. I didn't get into radio until later on in my career. Smashing Pumpkins I mean that was a huge album that year.
Speaker 3:Of course, foo Fighters, all those things I mean, and I mean alaska, more set and garbage, were everywhere at that time but yeah but again you go back, you, if you go back today and listen to even radiohead the bins and you listen to that album, if that were recorded today you would still be like that's a great fucking album, oh, oh I agree so that's why I feel like, yeah, they're just that's a timeless band, although, although in Rainbows, I love that album so much.
Speaker 2:In Rainbows. It was in. I remember when I heard that and I said I feel as though I'm listening to an album, like somebody was listening to Dark Side of the Moon the first time they heard it, because it is a compilation album where everything flows together. It is a visual album where there's like you're seeing things.
Speaker 3:I'll send you a chocolate bar, Anthony.
Speaker 2:Oh, alrighty then sounds good to me, but I will say that one album they put out afterwards, that was. It was terrible.
Speaker 3:There was one they put out like in the last 10 years that I did not like they've never put out anything that even remotely comes to the word terrible. Oh, hold on a second now.
Speaker 2:now I'm going to prove you wrong. There was an album they put out that I did not like anything off of it, and that was what is the name of the album.
Speaker 3:That was Because you Were Wrong, is what?
Speaker 2:that was called hey. Hey. Now what did we say before? We all have opinions Doesn't make it right or wrong.
Speaker 3:Something was wrong, though.
Speaker 2:Moonshape Pool Moon Shaped Pool that was a great album. Great album. King of Limbs 2011. That album was garbage the King of Limbs.
Speaker 3:It was terrible. The remix album, though.
Speaker 2:I'm good. It was a terrible album, not a good album at all. I feel like they just threw it all together. I don't even know if I've even listened to moon shaped pool. Oh man, oh, I have burned in the witch. I've heard. This is actually a good album, but the they got better. Yeah, no, that's about it.
Speaker 3:So that's just my opinion. How about kid amnesia?
Speaker 2:Those are great, all great albums. King of Limbs was a dog shit album, in my opinion. I was so frustrated listening to that and I didn't, and one of the lyrics for years I thought was brown paper, bag, dog, rabbit, foot or something like that. I don't even know, I just don't understand what the hell the album was about. Not a fan. So, with that being said, next month we'll get back into actually talking about a Pearl Jam song and bringing it in. Um, I think we're going to talk a little bit more about some of the the newer stuff and some of it being played. We'll do a new song, we'll do an old track as well. Bring it in here, and I think next month, um, hopefully, we'll have a special guest on um working on that as we speak, to talk a little bit, maybe about his experience with Pearl Jam. But we'll learn more as we get into that. Until then, is there anything that you want to talk about or say before we bounce?
Speaker 3:I don't think so I was trying to look at my calendar here. If anybody is going to be in the Boise area during Tree Fort weekend, which is the end of March, I've got a wine tasting at tree Fort. It's one of the great music festivals, unheralded music festivals in North America. It's in Boise, idaho, the end of March. They'll have 300 plus bands over five days and so I'm doing a wine tasting on Friday night. It will be awesome to have any of our Boise folks come out to see that. It's at 7 or 7 30 in the Ale Fort. It's free. There's going to be a burlesque show right after the wine tasting hint, hint, and then Saturday night Holly's actually performing at Tree Fort during their huge burlesque performance on Saturday night, which will be great are you ever going to perform in burlesque?
Speaker 3:you know I've been working on a routine, Anthony. Huge burlesque performance on Saturday night, which will be great. Are you ever going to perform in burlesque? You know I've been working on a routine, Anthony, and I'm going to drop it soon. But it's going to be like those shoe drops you never know what's going to happen and if you're not there in the first 30 seconds, you're going to miss it If. Holly doesn't send me that video when you drop it. I am going to be. I've learned a lot watching Holly do her burlesque.
Speaker 3:I've got a few moves up my sleeve.
Speaker 2:You want to give us a tease right now? I'll get some music going for you.
Speaker 3:Ready.
Speaker 1:Oh man, Just to let you.
Speaker 2:You know I felt something alright. Well, until next time. I'm Anthony. I was about to say I'm Trey. I'm all fucking flustered. Now I'm Anthony with Turing Fan Live. That's Trey, and we'll be back next month. Next week we'll be having another episode of another Unnecessary List with Brian talking about music documentaries. So tune in for that. More information coming soon. But until next time, thanks for tuning in and continue talking vinyl. Oh man, I'm fucking up big time right now. There we go.
Speaker 1:Did you grab your sleeping bag when you hit the floor, did you grab your sleeping bag? There we go.